If you are looking for an anti aging cream, I’d suggest you stay FAR AWAY from Prototype 37-C. This company has red flags raised all around it’s marketing efforts, and I was recently alerted to a very deceitful practice they are employing that is getting them in a mountain of legal trouble.
It’s been pointed out to me that the company buys the domain names of many of it’s competitors, only they buy the .org extension. What this does is essentially allow them to trick consumers of their product into clicking on the link, where the company bashes their competition. Pretty bad ethics, right?
Let me show you an example…..
Visit EliteSerum.org. You will see that this site is owned by a gentlemen named Chris Kuchin, who lives at the following address:
1565 North University Avenue #32
Provo, Utah
801-592-3549
aphill70cygnus211258@yahoo.com
Now, take a long look at that site. He uses obvious slander and deceit to BASH the Elite Serum. Any0ne who knows about Elite Serum can attest to it’s ability to cure the many symptoms that go hand in hand with aging. The website ONLY promotes a product that Kuchin is obviously affiliated with or owns himself, the Prototype 37-C. If you look up the information behind who owns Prototype37-c.com, you will see it’s none other than Chris Kuchin himself.
I was tipped off to this by people in the skin care industry, and I was told that the legal team of Elite Serum has found out that once before this Prototype37-C company was involved in legal action, last time involving another leading skin care company.
Upon doing some research into this Chris Kuchin character, we found out some interesting information. He is a student at Bringham Young University, living at the Glenwood Apartments.
I urge everyone out there to avoid this scam operation entirely. Do you really think a scamming college kid has the answer to getting rid of your dark circles, eye bags, and eye wrinkles?
He was dropped as a kid.
Prototype c is bunk. I’ve tried them all. Texture and elasticity, dare I say it, worsened on my skin. . Won’t buy this again. I’m on to one called redeaux. Tbc
In July 2012 I bought Skincell Vial #29; the 4 bottle special that came with 4 Cellox cream tubes. They are to be used together. I used one bottle and one tube no problems; it certainly stopped my skin from feeling dry. The second bottle made my skin go red and very rough so I made contact to utilise my Lifetime, No Questions Asked, 100% Money Back Guarantee! (FREE) to return my product. Apparently I have to have all the used bottles and the unopened bottles to get the full refund. This didn’t make any sense. I threw the first bottle out as I had complete faith that the product was good for me. Does anyone keep their old bottles just in case???? Anyway I realise now after getting no where with the customer support team that I wasted my money and will not get it back. They didn’t answer my questions and apparently there was no one higher that i could speak to, which is also strange. DON’T BUY THIS PRODUCT. I am currently looking for an ombudsman for this industry to get it sorted.
Same as Prototype 37C. -2 years later coming back on the market claiming the same results, same ingredients, Ashe packaging- possibly same scam using a different name. Skin Cell vial #29
Does Prototype #37-C work?
Don’t be distracted by marketing and high prices.
In the end, it comes down to how effective the product is.
Take Lifecell for instance – the marketing is extremely deceitful and the product is ridiculously expensive. Yet it is widely considered an effective product.
I’ve been using this product for 61 days now, and am tracking changes to my crows feet with high res pictures. So far no noticeable changes, but I’m going to keep it up for for another month.
I haven’t tried any of these products, and while I am very disappointed at the business ethics this company demonstrates, I must disagree with all the comments connecting Chris Kuchin’s business ethics to the Mormon church. A single person’s decisions do not reflect the teachings of a church, or a school for that matter. I know plenty of corrupt Harvard lawyers, but does that mean that Harvard teaches it’s students to be corrupt? There are MILLIONS of unethical Catholics out there – does that mean the Bible teaches people to be unethical? Absolutely not. I happen to know that the Mormon church, and BYU, teaches sound Christian principles and ethics, and this man’s decisions on how he runs a business DO NOT reflect the teachings or principles of his church or school. The two are totally separate.
Prototype 37-C Scam Alert!…
This college student has been scamming customers for his Prototype 37-c eye serum. Folks, stay far away from Chris Kuchin and Prototype 37-c….
Wow look at the response here. I had no idea BYU was such a scam operation and that Prototype operated all of these blogs:
eyecream.org
topwrinklecreams.org
Thanks for the heads up! Was ready to give it a try and spend some of my hard earned $$ but now I’m not! Keep up the good work!!!!!!!!!!
I personally have not tried the product, but I can tell you one thing for certain: scam after scam after scam begins in the heart of Mormon country, Provo, Utah. Students at BYU are taught to believe that money=righteousness. More money mean they are more righteous. How they obtain the money is secondary, they believe if they are successful in life, then God is blessing them and nothing else matters. Stay away from anything that can be tracked back to Provo, Utah!
big lyers and teafes.stop joking with people.
Skincell #29-A looks exactly like Prototype #37-C, packaging, description etc. Do you think this is the same scam?
They have to be getting pissed off because now they are posting links to their ads in an attempt to get better search engine rankings. Just look at all the bad reviews and fake testimonials they have by typing in “proto-type 37 c review”.
I think Chris Kuchin is bi-sexual, I read that on another forum, I’ll try to find the link.
Thank-you Carla and Chris: I too have noticed this Prototype 37-C company slamming the Derma Wand to make themselves look better. I’ve tried many times to contact then through some of the sites mentioned about, and emails just bounce back. I will Twitter this page to let the public know about this sham. If I don’t get a response, soon (through PROTOTYPE 37-C the only ‘contact us’ that doesn’t bounce back)they may be looking at litigation.
Cease and Desist
False designations of origin, false descriptions, and dilution forbidden.
Civil action (1) Any person who, on or in connection with any goods or services, or any container for goods, uses in commerce any word, term, name, symbol, or device, or any combination thereof, or any false designation of origin, false or misleading description of fact, or false or misleading representation of fact, which (A) is likely to cause confusion, or to cause mistake, or to deceive as to the affiliation, connection, or association of such person with another person, or as to the origin, sponsorship, or approval of his or her goods, services, or commercial activities by another person, or (B) in commercial advertising or promotion, misrepresents the nature, characteristics, qualities, of his or her or another persons goods, services, or commercial activities, shall be liable in a civil action by any person who believes that he or she is or is likely to be damaged by such act
They did not respond to my Cease and Desist Order.
Brent Doerner ICTV
International Commercial Television INC.
Wow how very sad it is that these people are scamming innocent people ! Of all things ‘WATER’. Well my suggestion to anyone that has purcahsed this product, take to someone who can tel you excactly what is in that bottle you paid over a $100 dollars for. Then call a lawyer and the better business beauru, the NEWS CHANNELS and ANYONE ELSE that can help you spread the word so this will not happened to someone else.
I tried this product and it did not work. It streams down the face like water and I did not see any drastic results. I would not buy it again.
Here’s another one. Looks like they just bought up a ton of domain names and created fake sites to sell their product.
http://www.wrinkletreatment.org
Found even more..
http://www.topwrinklecreams.net
http://www.wrinklecreamguide.net
Adding to Caroline L’s comment from February 28, 2010 at 3:11 am:
I think I know of another website – http://www.consumerwrinklereviews.com/
They recommend the exact same products. I personally have not purchased any, was just doing some research and came across the site I listed here, and then this blog. Thought I would share.
I recently purchased and was excited and its been a week and seen no difference. I noticed the product looked like water. I then came across this page stating this is a scam. So I tried emailing and calling them but noticed the number provided is a voicemail and the mailbox is full to leave a message. I had made a dispute with my bank. I do need a second opinion from another person who has used the product and seen no results. Who has experienced the ignore responses from this company. If you help me and give a second opinion so my bank can give me back my money more easily I would appreciate you guys can email me at cygnus211258cygnus211258@yahoo.com">Bunni111cygnus211258cygnus211258@yahoo.com. Thank you so much.
I ordered the 3 bottles and am now near the end of the 3rd bottle. It really has done nothing for my frown and smile line areas, after all this time. I will not re-order it, especially after reading these reviews. I often wondered how much of the product was just plain old water, and a miniscule amount, most likely, of the important peptide ingredients.
Two .org websites are affiliated with Prototype 37-C., http://www.besteyecreams.org/ and http://www.eyecream.org/. It’s quite obvious that the two websites are run by the same people with the same content under different format. Both sites put Prototype 37-C as the the #1 recommendation along with the other 4, and bashes all the other brands. This is quite alarming to me. I would suggest you stay away from these two websites, as well as the
P.S.
The return address I sent the prototype 37 back to was:
Prototype #37
ENR LLC
96 N. 18 W., Suite 12
Lindon Utah 84042
It was signed for by B Byon.
If anyone reading this has any information regarding this company would you please respond. Thank you.
This company is run by thieves and lairs. If Chris Kuckin is head of it then I lay all the blame at his feet. Is this what BYU students are learning, that it’s okay to make money off your fellow man any way you can as long as you make it and give a good portion to the church? I have heard this before, but didn’t know whether to believe it or not.
My story: In good faith I purchased the product, Prototype 37, late Swptember with it’s so called 90 days guarantee, and I saw no results. After deciding to return it I made many calls using the phone number provided by my credit card company, but I got no response(either busy or didn’t answer). A couple of days I even called all day long at 30 minute intervals.
Just before thanksgiving I called again and got an answering machine, and left a message saying I wanted them to call me as I wanted to return their merchandise. No response.
I finally decided to go to their website, early December, to contact them there. The contact was a dead end, however I did find a reorder phone number which I called. A woman answered and I told her I wanted to return the prototype 37, which at that time was still under the guarantee. She said no problem, said they would refund the whole price except for shipping and gave me a return code with a return address. I sent the product back with a signature required. I checked. It reached the address the woman gave me. Waited patiently for them to charge my credit card back. Never happened. So I recalled the reorder number, got the answer machine, left a message and requested a return phone call. NO RESPONSE!!! As far as I am concerned they are thieves and lairs of the worst kind. Judgement is coming.
This is pretty messed up… But on the bright side, he is kinda hot 🙂 !
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